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Ravi and Suresh's marbles — 2 : 1 to 4 : 1

The number of marbles Ravi had to the number Suresh had was in the ratio 2 : 1. After Ravi won another 200 marbles and Suresh lost 100 marbles in a game, the ratio became 4 : 1. How many marbles did Ravi have at first?

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The pattern behind it: Everything changed

Both amounts change, so no total and no gap stays fixed.

In this one. Ravi's amount at the end can be written two ways — 2u + 200 from his own gain, and 4 × (1u − 100) from the end ratio — and because both name the same amount, setting them equal turns the picture into a single equation in one unknown.

Beforetotal 7, gap 1AliBenAftertotal 8, gap 4 — both movedAlispent 1Bensaved 2

How to spot it

Both people in a ratio change by different amounts, with words like 'joined' or 'saved more' for one and 'left' or 'spent' for the other.

Common mistake

Children look for a fixed total or a fixed gap out of habit. Neither is fixed here, so only the ratio at the end can give the size of a share.

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